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mitt romney? >> that's not the issue, to me. i think he will -- i think he's principled in the sense that he will keep the commitments that he has made. almost all people when they run for president make a number of commitments. when they get elected, almost all presidents since modern studies have been done, the last seven or eight presidents, make an exceptional effort to do what they said they were going to do. when there's an exception to that, there's normally an overwhelming reason. abraham lincoln promised not to free the slaves. we're glad he didn't. reagan promised to balance the budget. we're glad he didn't try. almost every other president may have one smaller issue. but, by and large, they all do what they said they were going to do. yes, i think we should assume that he will be principled on that. he knows what he promised to do in the primary. and what he said in the general has been consistent with that. we should assume that is what he would do. >> under normal circumstances, the incumbent president with 8.2% une
mitt romney? >> that's not the issue, to me. i think he will -- i think he's principled in the sense that he will keep the commitments that he has made. almost all people when they run for president make a number of commitments. when they get elected, almost all presidents since modern studies have been done, the last seven or eight presidents, make an exceptional effort to do what they said they were going to do. when there's an exception to that, there's normally an overwhelming reason....
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they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers win the first debate, especially against incumbents, because incumbents have not had the opportunity to debate in several years. >> you're already conceding the challenger might win this debate? >> i think there's a good chance governor romney will win this debate. look, he won virtually every debate during the republican primaries. he actually dispatched no newt gingrich, demolishe demolished e florida debate. the president is very good at delivering a message to the american people, but generally more like you saw at the democraticn, in kind of a longer format. it's goin
they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers...
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governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor christie right, will this turn the presidential race upside down in byron? >> mitt romney at the south carolina primary, newt gingrich cleaned his clock. helhelp headedthey were headed o florida. romney felt he had his back to the wall, and he beat gingrich in both debates in florida. that's the spirit romney needs. he needs to do that well. >> greta: will he, steve hayes? reticent on this libya thing, he backed away a little bit. >> yeah. i think the tone of the romney campaign, particularly over the last week, has been a softer tone. they haven't wa
governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor...
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the city recorded a video at mitt romney -- the secret recorded video of mitt romney at a private fund-raiser. let's take a look. >> 47% -- >> in 2010, 38.5% of texans filing a retirement paid no income tax. there is no complete data on who get government assistance but last year, 24% of households get social security. almost 14% debt retirement income. 5% get disability benefits and almost 14%, food stamps. >> do you think east texans are victims of believe government has a responsibility to care for them? >> of course not. i agree with mitt romney when he said is, there were poorly phrased? there is a difference. part of the philosophy of president obama and this administration is trying to get as many americans as possible dependent on government so the democrats can stay in power in perpetuity. the reason i think that is failing is even those americans, if you break down that 47%, there is a significant chunk of people who paid into social security their entire life. that is very different from being dependent on welfare. that is a critical safety net our society has counted on that we ne
the city recorded a video at mitt romney -- the secret recorded video of mitt romney at a private fund-raiser. let's take a look. >> 47% -- >> in 2010, 38.5% of texans filing a retirement paid no income tax. there is no complete data on who get government assistance but last year, 24% of households get social security. almost 14% debt retirement income. 5% get disability benefits and almost 14%, food stamps. >> do you think east texans are victims of believe government has a...
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i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean, the only question i have, because the ads are powerful right now, and that was a good one, why did they wait till the third week of september to start running that ad? that i don't understand. >> sean: good point, good question. obama, back to class warfare. not one of us attacking romney for his wealth, which let's see if it resonates. i don't think it will. i haven't seen the dials yet. let's take a look. >> i'm barack obama. a prove this message. >> seen these new ads where mitt romney says he's a friend of coal country? this is the guy who wants to keep tax breaks for companies that ship american jobs overseas.
i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean,...
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what you expect from romney? >> we are not entirely sure. the story indicates some of his advisers really want him to count obama over this attack in libya, in benghazi, four americans, including the ambassador, died. his chief advisor is say it is still all about the economy. they are concerned, but not that concerned, as opposed to jobs or something like that. every day he is talking about foreign affairs is a day they are not talking about the economy. there is a real divide about what romney should do. >> we should point out the economy will be the topic at this debate, at least it will be domestic policy, for the most part. do we expect -- to mention romney might come out with more specifics. he spent four minutes on his specific plans for the economy during his speech. what do we expect this time around? >> we expect him to lay out more detail in this format, although whether it allows itself to an in-depth policy discussion is another matter. he is under a lot of pressure, especially under -- from conservative pundits, to put more mea
what you expect from romney? >> we are not entirely sure. the story indicates some of his advisers really want him to count obama over this attack in libya, in benghazi, four americans, including the ambassador, died. his chief advisor is say it is still all about the economy. they are concerned, but not that concerned, as opposed to jobs or something like that. every day he is talking about foreign affairs is a day they are not talking about the economy. there is a real divide about what...
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want to vote for romney. want to vote against obama. but they don't want to vote for romney because of all the negatives obama's piled on them which has not been answered. they're sitting on one side waiting for permission to jump over and vote for romney. in the debate, that he's not a monster, that he's a man of integrity and defending himself on this stuff, can absolutely encourage them to jump over and make it possible for them to do that. >> sean: what a joke all weekend, watching the obama people trying to lower expectations. >> yeah, right. >> sean: 2-1. >> let's par remember that most debates work in favor of the challenger. the challenger walks on and does a good job, like reagan did against carter, all the fears of him go away. carter against gerald ford in 1976. mondale against reagan in the first debate. >> sean: yeah. >> the challenger has an innate advantage in these debates, because he can show that he's not a monster, that he's informed, that he's okay, that he's reasonable and they can answer
want to vote for romney. want to vote against obama. but they don't want to vote for romney because of all the negatives obama's piled on them which has not been answered. they're sitting on one side waiting for permission to jump over and vote for romney. in the debate, that he's not a monster, that he's a man of integrity and defending himself on this stuff, can absolutely encourage them to jump over and make it possible for them to do that. >> sean: what a joke all weekend, watching...
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. >> romney is a very good debater. he's practiced and practiced and practiced and practiced. >> the moderator and obama are going to come after him. >> romney is actually pretty good on his feet in debates. >> the big questions, can romney reset his campaign with a strong debate? or with early voting under way -- >> president obama. >> -- is it too late for a turnaround? >> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president obama be rusty? or, can he break the race wide open? we'll ask our headliners. new jersey governor chris christie and the president's senior adviser david plouffe. and our powerhouse roundtable. squaring off, former party chairs haley barbour and howard dean. plus, matthew dowd, donna brazile and maggie haberman of politico. >>> hello again. we're heading into the home stretch of this campaign. just 37 days before the final votes, with all eyes on this week's first debate. the candidates are hunkering down in debate camp. our guests are ready to weigh in on where the race stands. wh
. >> romney is a very good debater. he's practiced and practiced and practiced and practiced. >> the moderator and obama are going to come after him. >> romney is actually pretty good on his feet in debates. >> the big questions, can romney reset his campaign with a strong debate? or with early voting under way -- >> president obama. >> -- is it too late for a turnaround? >> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president...
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romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the defensive and now he has a lot of ground to make up. gwen: is there an argument to be made that there is a policy shift going on in america's mind as well, not just a good speech or a good piece of positioning, but actually people are looking at their choices differently now? >> there are ways to think of this, not just through polling data but economic data and there is a surge of optimism. small business confidence is up. some financial market participant indexes are up. this would suggest that people are starting to feel
romney will win that. everyone is surprised that all of these polls are pretty much saying obama is in command of the lead. chuck talked about they lost august. one reading is that they lost the summer, the romney campaign. if you look at obama did, they did, at the start of this race was in may. that's when they started going out with tough ads and framing romney as someone who wasn't in touch with the middle class and the tax issue, him releasing his tax returns. he was always on the...
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that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran against a candidate ted strickland very much like the president is, tried to associate with you wall street and big banks. you beat him. how can mitt romney beat a campaign like that in ohio? >> he's got to be here paul. he was in high hometown not long ago. he had an overflow crowd that was amazing. i've been around a lot of national campaigns. when you are out with him. you see the enthusiasm. look the most important thing for candidate running for president is to get people to understand that he understands their problems or she understands their problems and knows how to fix them. jim roads the fourth term governor of ohio, all that matters in ohio is the size of this wallet. sf it's getting fatter, they will do well. if it is small are, they will not d
that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran against a candidate ted strickland very much like the president is, tried to associate with you wall street and big banks. you beat him. how can mitt romney beat a campaign like that in ohio? >> he's got to be here paul....
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have you talked to mitt romney? have you given him any advice? are you disappointed how this campaign is running? i know i'm throwing you sort of a curveball because we haven't been talking about that but that is the question of the day all over that he is not making his economic message clear enough. what advice would you give him. >> first of all there is no secret or novelty to the measures. most are passed in the republican house and languishing in the u.s. senate. that is the issue voters will be deciding in 36 days. frankly i don't think there is anything close about this election. there is something very profound going on out there that the polls are just not picking up. i think the election will be decided on the answer to the very same question that ronald reagan posed in 1980, are you better off today than you were four years ago. everybody can answer that question for himself. is not going to be influenced by ads or by the debate results or by clever spend doctors. i can not imagine the american people want to go another four years dow
have you talked to mitt romney? have you given him any advice? are you disappointed how this campaign is running? i know i'm throwing you sort of a curveball because we haven't been talking about that but that is the question of the day all over that he is not making his economic message clear enough. what advice would you give him. >> first of all there is no secret or novelty to the measures. most are passed in the republican house and languishing in the u.s. senate. that is the issue...
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governor romney. romney came in and showed him what anyone who wishes to debate must possess, aggressiveness, clear, clear minded focus on the facts, command of them. excuse me. let me -- forgive me, but neither of you are really equipped to be an arbiter of truth here. okay. really. i'm being quite serious. i'm looking at you. said more than once that you are a political strategist when the truth is irrelevant. >> how i'm going to give my span. lou: actually, i would love -- i would love just once or twice that they coincide. which, which -- what lie did president obama other? >> is not what president obama uttered. it's what mitt romney uttered. lou: actually, it isn't. both of them. one was true that one wasn't. >> one was like out to lunch or dinner. the other was there, but what he was saying was not true. lou: which was not true? which? >> well, that's the truth. schools are not number one in the country. president obama -- lou: what are they? >> i think there below ten. lou: your telling us you
governor romney. romney came in and showed him what anyone who wishes to debate must possess, aggressiveness, clear, clear minded focus on the facts, command of them. excuse me. let me -- forgive me, but neither of you are really equipped to be an arbiter of truth here. okay. really. i'm being quite serious. i'm looking at you. said more than once that you are a political strategist when the truth is irrelevant. >> how i'm going to give my span. lou: actually, i would love -- i would love...
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these are headlines for wednesday october third two thousand and twelve brought obama and mitt romney laced up for their first two thousand and twelve u.s. presidential debate do they represent two heads of the same monster even economically speaking gerald celente is here with his autumn trends forecast plus reuters reports lockheed martin and the pentagon are in talks at the senior level over the fifth order of the f. thirty five this is of course the behind schedule over budget by billions pool and with safety issues f. thirty five that you never imagined was supposed to be the future of the pentagon air arsenal we'll look at the cost of inefficient government spending to the economy's health and four years ago today george w. bush signed tarp let's take a look back at what lawmakers were told would happen without it according to this account. the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day another couple thousand the second day and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in america if we voted no. all right it may be history now but does someo
these are headlines for wednesday october third two thousand and twelve brought obama and mitt romney laced up for their first two thousand and twelve u.s. presidential debate do they represent two heads of the same monster even economically speaking gerald celente is here with his autumn trends forecast plus reuters reports lockheed martin and the pentagon are in talks at the senior level over the fifth order of the f. thirty five this is of course the behind schedule over budget by billions...
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down 5 points and suggests romney it down. and one who was not a-- and a pollster for gary hart and so on, he wrote in great part, what the media are doing are newspapers are supposed to be broke, instead spending money on polls in virginia, ohio and florida where obama clearly is clobbering romney in terms of television buys, you're down 8 points in ohio must be losing nationwide. it's not wrong, but it's obviously to suggest that romney is a goner. >> rick: kirsten, do you agree we'll hear stories about a tightening of the race because the media want to generate ratings and sell newspapers and magazines or perhaps a guilt on part of the mainstream media maybe we should be covering this a little bit more fairly than we have been? >>pist-- i think that sometimes media polls can be a little cooked. i have a friend, he used to do it for one of the media organizations and used to say, ding, here, it's been cooked, here is what you wanted. but the thing is, nate silver did a good analysis of the polls that show there are biases, b
down 5 points and suggests romney it down. and one who was not a-- and a pollster for gary hart and so on, he wrote in great part, what the media are doing are newspapers are supposed to be broke, instead spending money on polls in virginia, ohio and florida where obama clearly is clobbering romney in terms of television buys, you're down 8 points in ohio must be losing nationwide. it's not wrong, but it's obviously to suggest that romney is a goner. >> rick: kirsten, do you agree we'll...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes of the middle class that has been buried the last four years, how if lord's name can they justify that? >>neil: it is a gaffe that now is a romney ad campaign since the vice president started talking about the middle class getting buried, republicans have wasted barely a nano second capitalizing. the question tonight is whether it becomes a focus of the debate with mitt romney using the vice president's words against his boss. the president of the united states. why a romney economic adviser says that would be a very good idea. andy is next. andy, what do you think of that? the vi
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they...
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a double mike huckabee told jay leno that romney reminds you of the guy you.ired >> romney isis not going to be e your pain. feels not a great politician. one of the reason at this -- it did not come . of nowowhere out of tens of million ads by the obama he handledbout how ith bain capital and all that. other essence was the series thasay he wants to produce taxes on the rich. reduce taxes on the e rich. romney has protested that that true, that he wants to the rich buttes on theitted to reform that share paid in taxes by the rich not change. he says that in intnterviews but never spell that out in way that would d get attention. meme is that t he wants to cut taxes on the rich, but the not, andthahat he would never stood up and w way that would have to command respononse and attention. >> there actually is a way, and not too late, because it is a simple message. true tax reform has the effec rates forg tax everybody, but all these special willest groups, everybody precious special loopholes, deductions. side, against the groups in wawashington. if h he proposes that, that is a .rue thing
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but mitt romney is saying it is too little, too late. obviously the white house doesn't want this close to the election to see some sort of a security breach. that is why they are making clear that no classified information was taken here. >>neil: thank you, ed henry, from las vegas. >> now, five weeks ahead of the election you may want to hear this next story. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many different park service units across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thing that i loved. now, i'm going to be able to have the time to explore something different. it's like another chapter. >>neil: thousands of lay off notices will set workers hands days out of the election. the white house telling the defense contractors to hold off on the pink slip warnings and any legal costs they incur will be covered. today we are learning that lockheed and another against firm are listening. now, what is the heck is going on? these are part of the p
but mitt romney is saying it is too little, too late. obviously the white house doesn't want this close to the election to see some sort of a security breach. that is why they are making clear that no classified information was taken here. >>neil: thank you, ed henry, from las vegas. >> now, five weeks ahead of the election you may want to hear this next story. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many different park service units across the united states. the only time...
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>> should mitt romney resign? >> he is not -- >> judge jeanine: she was inaccurate. >> he is not president. >> this is about the president's spokesperson. >> romney is running for president. >> coming out and saying that this was a video, a hateful video. the same words the president used at the up. should she resign? >> i mean it was a hateful video but he also said clearly we are going to speak out to people. >> judge jeanine: if you interrogated the people who shot our ambassador to find out if they even saw the video? isn't there is presumption there that the american people need to learn the truth about? >> we can aggressively go after terrorists which we have. >> judge jeanine: we have? >> this is a premeditated attack and you have to admit when they looked at his diary he even had security concerns that went up to -- >> judge jeanine: guys, i got to go. thanks so much for being with us this evening. coming up, some polls show the presidential race too close to call. others show the president with a double d
>> should mitt romney resign? >> he is not -- >> judge jeanine: she was inaccurate. >> he is not president. >> this is about the president's spokesperson. >> romney is running for president. >> coming out and saying that this was a video, a hateful video. the same words the president used at the up. should she resign? >> i mean it was a hateful video but he also said clearly we are going to speak out to people. >> judge jeanine: if you...
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going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours before the debate and mr. ryan laid it all out. >> chris: i suspect he didn't give all the secrets away but he says romney has to make eight choice. it would seem obvious but up until now the komz campaign has been talking about a referendum on obama, it's all about obama's record and they have to show that romney is a credible alternative. now, they are saying, no. it's a choice between obama's record and plan for the future which they say are stagnation for the economy and dependency by more and more people versus romney's plan for opportunity and growth. they clearly decided it has to be contrasting visions why obama is wrong and they cla
going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours before the debate and mr. ryan laid it all out. >> chris: i suspect he didn't give all the secrets away...
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how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get married because of barack obama! zing! >> i will tell you this, people. i would not (bleep) barack obama's economy with the (bleep). zing! >> zing! >> the candidates are preparing for wednesday's debate we go to senior correspondent aasif mandvi. >> you are with the romney camp, how is he doing? >> he is prepping the best he can, jon, but you hate to see an uphill battle like this, this is the president, the greatest or for this, orator this country has seen since lincoln. >> like i mean, mitt romney, talk about brilliant two, harvard degrees, the guy has never even lost an argument, he is no slouch
how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get...
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why the romney campaign does not leave a minute to spare. air and i was startled by the numbers but they need to get the ads out and fast? >> look at i would this week the obama campaign says more than 100,000 ballots are from democrats versus 40,000 republicans. the obama campaign will hit them again and again. neil: i don't know the record but generally it is reflective of the moment look at the polls in favor the president. if you are mitt romney you don't have the moment to spare. >> you need to make a move quick. early voters are the hard partisans mostly the vote will not change voting today universe sixth. as strong as the psident's early voting program is as he invented the wheel so does the romney campaign and track it thoroughly. i expected to be competitive if he loses it is not due to the early voting program. but can he get ads on the ear pressed up to compete with the obama onslaught? neil: at the convention nassau lot of obama adds running six slate -- six /1. but they did seize the early initiative and but wonder if you are s
why the romney campaign does not leave a minute to spare. air and i was startled by the numbers but they need to get the ads out and fast? >> look at i would this week the obama campaign says more than 100,000 ballots are from democrats versus 40,000 republicans. the obama campaign will hit them again and again. neil: i don't know the record but generally it is reflective of the moment look at the polls in favor the president. if you are mitt romney you don't have the moment to spare....
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pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday night, this is it. they need to turn this campaign around. debates are vehicles of challengers. this is his chance to do this. >> sean: we need the mitt romney that showed up after losing south carolina, where he went into that state up double digits, and came out winning by double digits -- i'm sorry -- lost by double digits, then went to florida and had two debates with newt, that's the romney i want. >> the one-on-one debate forum is not necessarily president obama's best either. they've been after him for $700 million on character. the american people get 90 minutes to see whether or not tha
pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday...